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Old 11-11-2009, 01:36 PM   #31
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So would mostly stock toyota be illegal in the street stock class? Other than gears, lockers, 35's, and a mild lift, the only other mods are an exo, minor fender trimming, and the flat bed. I don't see ANY advantage to the flat bed other than visibility and not crunching sheet metal. But on the flip side, concerning RockMonkeys comment, the difference in weight on a toyota bed, compared to the flat bed is minimal. The 100# I lost by removing the bed has affected the way the suspension flexes. And I gained most of the weight back with the exo.

I'm just wondering, cuz I am thinking about running the street stock class with this rig.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:55 PM   #32
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Frame question for street stock

On another note... The rules state:
1.3a
Frames must be OEM, or direct OEM design aftermarket replacement. Frame re-enforcement allowed.

1.3b
Frame rail modifications are not allowed, including cutting holes in the frame rails for custom brackets (except as allowed

in 1.7 below). All bolt on or weld on custom brackets are permitted.

I am also considering running my old wheeler in the stock class, but the frame has been changed. The body is a 46 Flatty, but it is on a newer boxed rectangle frame. The suspension is still leafs front and rear, and it's running 33's (might put the 35's from the above vehicle instead). The only body mods are the rear wheelwells are comp cut because the wheelbase has been extended about 3". Because the frame is not OEM (from the Willy's), would this disqualify the vehicle from this class?



Also, can a team run 2 different classes? ie, ftoy and stock with 2 seperate vehicles, 2 seperate entry fees?
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:21 PM   #33
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I don't know about the frame, but I believe the comp cut would bump you out of the stock class.
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:41 AM   #34
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The wheelbase is 108. It will be street legal with tube fenders and flaps.

What is the stock wheel base?
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:46 AM   #35
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What is the stock wheel base?
100" or 101". Ish.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:02 PM   #36
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100" or 101". Ish.
I was thinking 102". That bumps Braden to Legend (102 +3 = 105 max).
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:03 PM   #37
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I know it's probably too late now, but maybe most of these issues could be taken care of by having something like a "superstock" class? That might give something like Braden's XJ a place to fit in, and still allow the lesser built vehicles to be competitive amung similar rigs. It might also be a good place to stick the rigs that have previously had to run the legends class just because they're running a 38" tire, or a flatbed, or some other minor issue.

Also, if you could clarify for me because I'm easily confused. Braden would be stuck running the legend class because an XJ should have rear leafs, but his front coilovers would be fine for stock class, correct?
Wheel base kicked him to Legend.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:11 PM   #38
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I am also considering running my old wheeler in the stock class, but the frame has been changed. The body is a 46 Flatty, but it is on a newer boxed rectangle frame. The suspension is still leafs front and rear, and it's running 33's (might put the 35's from the above vehicle instead). The only body mods are the rear wheelwells are comp cut because the wheelbase has been extended about 3". Because the frame is not OEM (from the Willy's), would this disqualify the vehicle from this class?

The frame change would keep you out of stock with the flat fender. I don't know where the bed issue will end up. Right now, the rules don't allow it in stock. One rig ran in stock with the other drivers consent with a flat bed in 2009. It doesn't sound like that will happen again from the comments on this thread. Why don't you just run your F Toy?
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:44 PM   #39
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Ive been told the Scout is to tall and wide to compete.


Are you looking for volunteers again this year?

If I start planning on it now I should be able to make it
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:54 PM   #40
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Ive been told the Scout is to tall and wide to compete.


Are you looking for volunteers again this year?

If I start planning on it now I should be able to make it
Funny, I heard they aren't tough enough! JK of course, we'll get you and 4554x4 out in his blazer and see what real trucks can do. I imagine double wide and long will bump you out of the stock class too though.

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my wheelbase is actually only 3" longer than it was stock!


As far as Im reading.....Im good!
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Ive been told the Scout is to tall and wide to compete.


Are you looking for volunteers again this year?

If I start planning on it now I should be able to make it

Yes, yes, yes. Judges are hard to find. I do a class every year before the event to help the Judges. Most of the time the competitors know the rules better than the Judges.
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Yes, yes, yes. Judges are hard to find. I do a class every year before the event to help the Judges. Most of the time the competitors know the rules better than the Judges.

Cool!

Keep me updated. I will be there
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Why don't you just run your F Toy?
I plan on running it. But I was thinking I could run the stock class as well.

It might be better to just run one class anyway... I'd be upset cuz the truck wouldn't climb what I think it should...although I just did it in the buggy.
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